anyone used a FLIR LS32

[22-250jock]

as above,

anyone have any first hand experience with one of these thermals, neighbouring keeper has just ordered one from Julian at starlight to give it a try

cheers jock

[PESCA]

Haven't used one myself, John, but did look at them before I bought the Guide.

I put the LS32 aside based on the fact that it only had a 19mm lens, so detection at range was well down compared with the Guide.

George

[22-250jock]

any idea how far you could recognise a fox size target with it George?

iirc it states man size target at 700m

[PESCA]

John, the figure I've seen is 640m, so the same ballpark figure really.

Anyhow, a man-sized target is classed as 1.7m and I think you'll agree that we can class charlie as about 0.5m, so, we're talking about 1/3 of the size, so, let's err on the generous side and say 240 metres.

Now, we really have three different levels of measurement. The first is detection, then we have recognition, and finally, identification. You'll appreciate that the distance drops with each level.

When working out these figures, the industry normally use NATO Johnson calculations as standard. Using this, I believe that the Guide IR518C has a 400 metre detection range for a fox.

All of these figures also have other variables, some of which are technology based and some of which are 'real-world' based. So, we have prevailing conditions such as weather and terrain, and we have such things as sensor quality and how the signal is handled.

You've also got the fact that a lot depends on the users ability to identify quarry and differentiate between quarry. This comes with use. Both myself, and I'm sure others, will tell you that the usable distances generally exceed the stated figures. I've watched horses clearly at more than a mile away and rats running through a barley field at fifty yards.

Better than sliced bread

George

[22-250jock]

thanks for the explanation George,

guess he'll have to wait and see................ supposed to be coming next week. looking forward to having a play

cheers john

[Rickfitz]

You've also got the fact that a lot depends on the users ability to identify quarry and differentiate between quarry. This comes with use. Both myself, and I'm sure others, will tell you that the usable distances generally exceed the stated figures. I've watched horses clearly at more than a mile away and rats running through a barley field at fifty yards.

Better than sliced bread

George[/quote]

I was very impressed last week to easily identify rabbits at over a known 200 yards, with the Pulsar 38's. I'm sure conditions were very good but that far exceeded my expectations, I thought I would only see heat blobs as for finding shot quarry marvelous, wouldn't be without it now

I do like the idea of the FLIR LS-Series comes with an integrated laser to pinpoint targets

[PESCA]

I'm curious to know why a laser pointer would be seen to be of any use?

George

[22-250jock]

I'm curious to know why a laser pointer would be seen to be of any use?

George

could be useful if your shooting with a mate with NV,
use the thermal with laser to show where the target is............especially in long grass/bracken etc, where you might not be able to see it with NV alone

just a thought George

john|

[Rickfitz]

I'm curious to know why a laser pointer would be seen to be of any use?

George

My own interpretation is your buddy stood next to you with the rifle with NV would see what you are looking at allot quicker & easier

[PESCA]

Got you, and see where you're coming from fellas.

I was looking at it from the point of view that I predominantly shoot on my own (Billy no-mates ).

George