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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by phoenix » 26 Jun 2016, 08:11

rodp wrote:
Frogman Ladue wrote:ahh, sounds like democracy. Sweet, sweet democracy. Ya'll gotta give your hard earned money to the poor, and hillbilly nations left over from the comm bloc era. Take from the rich, and give to the poor...and make sure government continues to occupy the pockets of the rich. I don't blame you guys in the least for doing what you do.

Sounds like y'all got 'Murican problems. :D Just remember, if you break it, you bought it. Might want to remind Germany that while they're shoveling money into Greece. And soon to be Turkey. Hope Germany's got deep pockets because the French will do everything they can to get out of paying their share, that's if they have the money in the first place
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On the bright side, gas prices over here dropped 35cents a gallon. The dollar is still stable.
The EU always comes back to the French and the Germans.
The whole deal was a French idea to stop the Germans invading them for a third time in a single century and the Germans went along with it because they didn't trust themselves not to do exactly that.
The Germans are by far, the richest country in the EU but, until very recently were very reluctant to use the power that comes with that wealth because they didn't want their history being thrown in their face (e.g. the Greek response to Germany's lack of enthusiasm for yet another Greek bailout)
The French think they are the most powerful and influential member state (coz the whole deal was their idea - a bit like England and football :D ), but in fact they're broke and as has been said, they are world champions for setting rules and regulations that every member state is supposed to follow, but which they themselves completely ignore

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Radagast » 26 Jun 2016, 13:29

Yes Minister is always relevant.

Why Britain joined the EU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE

Why France and Germany went into the EU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVrN-gkzVYI

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by phoenix » 26 Jun 2016, 14:24

Radagast wrote:Yes Minister is always relevant.

Why Britain joined the EU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE

Why France and Germany went into the EU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVrN-gkzVYI
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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Frogman Ladue » 26 Jun 2016, 20:57

Just saw a joke over here...

Why does Britain like tea so much?

Because Tea Leaves.
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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Radagast » 27 Jun 2016, 02:27

I have a theory that the Boston Tea Party was caused by a lack of coffee. Cut Americans off from their morning coffee and they start raging and do silly things like nuke Japan.

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by hairyyoda » 27 Jun 2016, 12:18

Frogman we have a big weakness over here for trying to see in to the future ? :lol: so vast amounts of tea are brewed in order to read the predictions in the pattern of the tea leaves that are left in the bottom of the cup ? :lol: Nothing much happens over here until after everyone has had a cup of tea ? :lol: :crazy: :wtf: :lol:
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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Midnight.Sun » 27 Jun 2016, 14:59

Great, brilliant, according to this unquestionable facts (just like all the recent extreme right numbers and promises), you did a great job to leave those "LAZY" countries, and please do everyone a favour and deport all the Greeks and Polish and from the ex Soviet states citizens back to the EU, whom -by the way- are doing all the craft and handy work for you, the EU knows how to benefit from them, without complaining about helping them to develop their homelands which will eventually add strength to the EU. And by then you can live happily ever after with your lazy Arabs and Pakistanis -all the stanies- merchants and their raised cults (only just very few in number) who are all the time busy praying, preaching, educating, and planning their next holly conquest, and enjoy their usual tribal tradition of back stabbing, of course while their women -that you are never allowed to see- are inside their homes nursing and religious rais the next generations.

Why don't you blame who is really taking your hard earnings? Why everything is triple the cost inside the UK? I don't see that in the EU, I wonder where all that money goes?! To the Eastern Europeans citizens I bet!!!!!!

The East don't measure everything with gold and cash, history and culture is all we fight and die for.

Greece is home to the first advanced civilizations in Europe and is considered the birthplace of Western civilization.

As for occupationS, which nation can claim to have ever occupied more land than Greece under Alexander???????

After the Turkish conquest, many Byzantine Greek scholars, who up until then were largely responsible for preserving classical knowledge, fled to the West, taking with them the large body of literature.

Also, following up the refugees deal between EU and Turkey, it seems it can't be ever far from happening, more to the Turkish side, and to the EU cunning traps, the only cash they're willing to pay for is the fuel of the ships that will return the refugees to Turkey, which by its turn will eventually -compelled and defeated- will send them to Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and if the EU will pay, the UK too will have to pay its share, and the US should also be forced to pay, and it will be a small price for encouraging the Syrian Islamists to try to topple of the government in Syria (any government, even if its president's name was Abra-Cadabra), and backing Gulf States and Turkey for that goal, also for playing sleazy childish games with Russia in "her" Ukrainian backyard. Yep.. damn sure, your governments deserve even more, as they only stopped helping them after they saw their failure and their madness and back-warded minds, and after the bankruptcy and demolition spectre started fly over Saudi Arabia.

The recent Greeks economy is known for its peak ups and downs, go back and check the numbers between ~ 2000 ~ 2013 or so -as I remember- there were times it was one of the highest growth rate -or maybe the highest- in Europe, UK included, so the current period won't last for long, because the Greeks are warriors and are now just taking a warriors break.

(Swinging on the East countered. With integrity.)

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Now... I wrote the following two sentences the last time i visited this thread (The following day to the Brexit) and some of you might have read it then before I edited and replaced it. I'm repeating it now:

"Both sides have lost, but the UK lost a lot more. IMO"

"Both sides are strong and will continue, and all you're hearing now about the EU fall apart is just a British right wing propaganda to make their huge (careless, selfish) mistake look easier on the British people."

I edited back then and replaced it fast with "all parts have lost" because I didn't want to be among the ones to speak early -amid the crisis- about the aftermath, but now everyone is.

The global trust in the UK is huge, but not to an extent that it can take any more extreme right wing falls. IMHO.

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by rodp » 27 Jun 2016, 16:10

Midnight.Sun wrote:Great, brilliant, according to this unquestionable facts (just like all the recent extreme right numbers and promises), you did a great job to leave those "LAZY" countries, and please do everyone a favour and deport all the Greeks and Polish and from the ex Soviet states citizens back to the EU,Don't worry, we'll be trying very hard to do just that whom -by the way- are doing all the craft and handy work for you, the EU knows how to benefit from them, without complaining about helping them to develop their homelands which will eventually add strength to the EU.Which we don't really want to be involved with And by then you can live happily ever after with your lazy Arabs and Pakistanis -all the stanies- merchants and their raised cults (only just very few in number) who are all the time busy praying, preaching, educating, and planning their next holly conquest, and enjoy their usual tribal tradition of back stabbing, of course while their women -that you are never allowed to see- are inside their homes nursing and religious rais the next generations.

Why don't you blame who is really taking your hard earnings? Why everything is triple the cost inside the UK? I don't see that in the EU, I wonder where all that money goes?! To the Eastern Europeans citizens I bet!!!!!! It appears we send quite a bit to support their children back home, is that fair?

The East don't measure everything with gold and cash, history and culture is all we fight and die for. That's why we're the 5th largest economy in the world, and you're not

Greece is home to the first advanced civilizations in Europe and is considered the birthplace of Western civilization. And we were the birthplace of industry, and that brings the money in

As for occupationS, which nation can claim to have ever occupied more land than Greece under Alexander??????? The British empire?

After the Turkish conquest, many Byzantine Greek scholars, who up until then were largely responsible for preserving classical knowledge, fled to the West, taking with them the large body of literature.

Also, following up the refugees deal between EU and Turkey, it seems it can't be ever far from happening, more to the Turkish side, and to the EU cunning traps, the only cash they're willing to pay for is the fuel of the ships that will return the refugees to Turkey, which by its turn will eventually -compelled and defeated- will send them to Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and if the EU will pay, the UK too will have to pay its share Why ? Other countries wealth, or lack of, is absolutely nothing to do with us., and the US should also be forced to pay, and it will be a small price for encouraging the Syrian Islamists to try to topple of the government in Syria (any government, even if its president's name was Abra-Cadabra), and backing Gulf States and Turkey for that goal, also for playing sleazy childish games with Russia in "her" Ukrainian backyard. Yep.. damn sure, your governments deserve even more, as they only stopped helping them after they saw their failure and their madness and back-warded minds, and after the bankruptcy and demolition spectre started fly over Saudi Arabia.

The recent Greeks economy is known for its peak ups and downs, go back and check the numbers between ~ 2000 ~ 2013 or so -as I remember- there were times it was one of the highest growth rate -or maybe the highest- in Europe, UK included, so the current period won't last for long, because the Greeks are warriors and are now just taking a warriors break. Good for them, hope they make it big, but don't hold your breath

(Swinging on the East countered. With integrity.)

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Now... I wrote the following two sentences the last time i visited this thread (The following day to the Brexit) and some of you might have read it then before I edited and replaced it. I'm repeating it now:

"Both sides have lost, but the UK lost a lot more. IMO" I wouldn't bet on that if I were you, if our Government act in our best interests, instead of their own, UK will make it big again

"Both sides are strong and will continue, and all you're hearing now about the EU fall apart is just a British right wing propaganda to make their huge (careless, selfish) mistake look easier on the British people." Time will tell, it's all down to getting someone in power with some bottle

I edited and replaced it fast with "all parts have lost" because I didn't want to be among the ones to speak early -amid the crisis- about the aftermath, but now everyone is.

The global trust in the UK is huge, but not to an extent that it can take any more extreme right wing falls. IMHO.
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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Midnight.Sun » 27 Jun 2016, 23:02

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Rod, you're a very stubborn, and have a real bad influence, I'll scramble my post further with you, even that I'm using a phone.

Of course nothing I write is personal mate, you have all my respect and admiration, even if we can't find anything common in political views.
rodp wrote:
Midnight.Sun wrote:Great, brilliant, according to this unquestionable facts (just like all the recent extreme right numbers and promises), you did a great job to leave those "LAZY" countries, and please do everyone a favour and deport all the Greeks and Polish and from the ex Soviet states citizens back to the EU,Don't worry, we'll be trying very hard to do just that That's fascist talk, that's exactly what the Nazi said about the Jews. I don't know if you're native British, but if you weren't, and you were just a regular expatriate worker citizen, how will you react to such speech? I'm willing to bet you on 1 £ that you are far better than this talk. (I lowered the bet just so that hopefully you would accept to lose it ;) ). whom -by the way- are doing all the craft and handy work for you, the EU knows how to benefit from them, without complaining about helping them to develop their homelands which will eventually add strength to the EU.Which we don't really want to be involved with Absolutely fine and your word was spoken and respected in the referendum, but please respect the opinion of the other ~ 15 millions UK'ers who voted the opposite. And by then you can live happily ever after with your lazy Arabs and Pakistanis -all the stanies- merchants and their raised cults (only just very few in numbers, right? Those don't cost your economy a dime?) who are all the time busy praying, preaching, educating, and planning their next holly conquest, and enjoy their usual tribal tradition of back stabbing, of course while their women -that you are never allowed to see- are inside their homes nursing and religious rais the next generations.

Why don't you blame who is really taking your hard earnings? Why everything is triple the cost inside the UK? I don't see that in the EU, I wonder where all that money goes?! To the Eastern Europeans citizens I bet!!!!!! It appears we send quite a bit to support their children back home, is that fair? You're not sending them anything, they are working and living with their families in UK just like everyone, both you and them are paying tax to the government, protest against it "IF" it was truly spending it that way inside the EU, instead of going on your fellow citizens. And I don't see you ask where's all the big money going?
To the richest and the more important among you that's where, to the big corporations and banks inside your country, to the British tax heavens like Cayman Island and Virgin Islands, and to Panama Banks and low firms, that's where.


The East don't measure everything with gold and cash, history and culture is all we fight and die for. That's why we're the 5th largest economy in the world, and you're not Good for you, may you be No1 for all i care... We are not, so what?! I can't care less for now, we and our ancestors were born here, that's our country, that's our mentality, that's our place in the universe, and we love it, we were happy just to live peacefully in it, but apparently that didn't satisfy some fascist Islamic Ideolojy, and their imperial operators in your innocent humanitarian West !!!???!!!.

Greece is home to the first advanced civilizations in Europe and is considered the birthplace of Western civilization. And we were the birthplace of industry, and that brings the money in Would you have ever done it, without the classic Greek philosophies and basic science??!!

After the Turkish conquest, many Byzantine Greek scholars, who up until then were largely responsible for preserving classical knowledge, fled to the West, taking with them the large body of literature.

As for occupationS, which nation can claim to have ever occupied more land than Greece under Alexander??????? The British empire? NEVER, never was bigger than the Byzantine Empire. Yours maybe more modern and useful, yes. But look at it now, vanished like all the previous ones,why? Because all occupations will die, and the lands will eventually go back to its original inhabitants.

Also, following up the refugees deal between EU and Turkey, it seems it can't be ever far from happening, more to the Turkish side, and to the EU cunning traps, the only cash they're willing to pay for is the fuel of the ships that will return the refugees to Turkey, which by its turn will eventually -compelled and defeated- will send them to Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and if the EU will pay, the UK too will have to pay its share Why ? Other countries wealth, or lack of, is absolutely nothing to do with us. Why you ask!? The answers are there in the following lines, which you apparently missed, maybe I wasn't clear enough, i'll color them and write some additions for you. , and the US should also be forced to pay, thats the least penalty price because those western governments -yours included- calling themselves Syria's Friends encouraged the Syrian Islamists to try to topple the government in Syria (whichever government in Syria at any time to come, even if the president's name was Abra-Cadabra, will never accept Islamic Ruling in Syria), and they backed the Gulf States and Turkey for that goal, that penalty is the least the west owes to those whom they lead to destroy their entire lives. Damn sure your western governments deserve to pay, as they never got confused and shortened the support until after they saw their failure and their madness and back-warded minds, and after the bankruptcy and demolition spectre started to fly over Saudi Arabia. Not to mention also playing sleazy childish games with Russia in "her" Ukrainian backyard, and forcing sanctions too, and moving strategic facilities inside Eastern Europe by the NATO, and you ask why and what?!!!! What do they want, another 1989 ? That's going to cost only the planet this time, i can only guess. The west needs to learn to stay away with your democracy, the East is not ready for such political structures, you're not fooling anyone, it's all destruction you are causing, that's what the west want apparently. Does the west want to dictate Islamic Sharia on Syria? Every single militant will be killed mercilessly, even if this war lasts forever.

The recent Greeks economy is known for its peak ups and downs, go back and check the numbers between ~ 2000 ~ 2013 or so -as I remember- there were times it was one of the highest growth rate -or maybe the highest- in Europe, UK included, so the current period won't last for long, because the Greeks are warriors and are now just taking a warriors break. Good for them, hope they make it big, but don't hold your breath They are responsible for their actions, I wish them all the best, and I believe they will.

(Swinging on the East countered. With integrity.)

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Now... I wrote the following two sentences the last time i visited this thread (The following day to the Brexit) and some of you might have read it then before I edited and replaced it. I'm repeating it now:

"Both sides have lost, but the UK lost a lot more. IMO" I wouldn't bet on that if I were you, if our Government act in our best interests, instead of their own, UK will make it big again You completely misjudged me here Rod, i was just saying my opinion. I wish your country all the best in its new independent track, I actually don't like to call it independence day -like you did- cuz in my heart GB was never an EU state, NEVER, it was just in the continent and I wanted it to play its role in history making and cooperate with the other European Nations, didn't want it to isolate it self, anyway you have different opinion, and you -of course- would know whole a lot more than i do.

"Both sides are strong and will continue, and all you're hearing now about the EU fall apart is just a British right wing propaganda to make their huge (careless, selfish) mistake look easier on the British people." Time will tell, it's all down to getting someone in power with some bottle I wish the parliament and leading party chooses the best man possible for the job.

I don't assume you meant someone with some bottle to destroy the EU, though it would be a very good plan. Take them Europeans by surprise
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I edited and replaced it fast with "all parts have lost" because I didn't want to be among the ones to speak early -amid the crisis- about the aftermath, but now everyone is.

The global trust in the UK is big, but not to an extent that it can take any more extreme right wing falls. IMHO.
Gosh, that was quite hard to do on the weak phone processor.

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by hairyyoda » 28 Jun 2016, 16:49

Have a think about this "circus event" for a dull idea ?
The cost of the European Parliament decamping from Belgium to Strasbourg, France, once a month runs to more than £100m a year.
It is perhaps the most outlandish of the European Union’s excesses; a £130 million travelling circus that once a month sees the European Parliament decamp from Belgium to France.
Over the course of the weekend, some 2,500 plastic trunks will be loaded on to five lorries and driven almost 300 miles from Brussels to Strasbourg.
On Monday, about 1,000 politicians, officials and translators will then make the same journey on two specially chartered trains hired at taxpayers’ expense.
A few thousand more will go to Strasbourg by other means, as the European Parliament switches from Brussels, its permanent base, to its “official” home in northern France.
For the first time, the full detail of this “madness”, contained in official European documents, can be disclosed today and the price to taxpayers is astonishing.
In all, the EU admits that the monthly Strasbourg sitting, which lasts just four days, costs an additional £93 million a year. The Conservative Party in Europe, which is leading a campaign to abandon it, estimates the cost a little higher at £130 million, or about £928 million in the seven-year cycle of an EU budget.
Among the costs are £250,000 a year to transport the plastic boxes containing documents, diaries and other items from Brussels to Strasbourg and back again. The boxes are left outside offices in Brussels on a Friday evening, collected by a courier company and driven to Strasbourg, where they are unloaded and left outside offices there. The process is repeated in reverse on Thursday evening.
It is thought it costs up to £200,000 for the EU to charter two express trains to take officials, MEPs and others there on a Monday morning and back on a Thursday afternoon. The trains stop only once at an airport in Paris to collect or drop MEPs and no ordinary member of the public can get on board, for a train which arrives in time for parliamentary sessions beginning in the afternoon.
Many of the details are contained within a report into the “financial and environmental impact” of operating two parliaments, which was overseen by Klaus Welle, the secretary-general to the European Parliament, its top civil servant. Mr Welle had been requested by MEPs to give an accurate figure on the costs of two parliaments amid a growing clamour to scrap one of them.
The report shows how taxpayers foot the £2.5 million bill for relocating freelance translators from Brussels to Strasbourg and back again, including costs of travel, accommodation and other expenses.
Providing catering services in Strasbourg costs an additional £1 million, while extra medical support comes to some £330,000.
In Strasbourg, extra money is needed for computers and IT support and for maintenance and security of the sleek parliament building, which was completed in 1999. In total, the cost of looking after the French buildings and infrastructure and other charges comes to about £50 million a year.
One source suggested that before each session begins, a maintenance crew visits every bathroom and turns on and off every tap to make sure no pipes have been blocked since they were last used and to rid the pipes of stale water.
A spokesman said that the maintenance teams looked after the building just like any other.
About 100 people are employed in Strasbourg full-time, even though the European Parliament meets for 12 sessions, each lasting four days, a total of only 48 days each year.
But during those four-day sessions, the circus is in town. About 5,500 people pour into Strasbourg; not only politicians and officials but lobbyists, too.
Hotels in Strasbourg typically double their rates when the EU comes to stay. Last week, the Hilton Hotel in Strasbourg was offering rooms at £82 for Sunday night, but this rose to a cheapest rate of £161 a night for Monday, when the sessions begin.
One MEP said he booked his accommodation a staggering five years in advance to ensure obtaining a room at a reasonable rate.
For an EU obsessed by climate change and its possible effects, more embarrassing is the report’s admission that “10,200 tonnes of CO2 per year would be saved if Strasbourg were no longer used as a place of work”.
That is the equivalent of 12,000 cars driving around the circumference of the world.

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