M42/E700 adaptors.

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M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by some bloke » 30 Jan 2015, 17:24

Sorry for the delay - will update this later so expect to see some edits please. I had a freindly sit-in at the factory this morning to wait for the bloke to personally tap out some holes in 10 off for now.

With regards to the two M4 tapped holes on the top for short weaver rails - well either way up actually just in case they can double up for E700 scopeless builds on a riser block or something. They are only about 7mm deep so they will not allow rain to enter the optics cavity. User can extend them and use longer screws as desired when a decision has been made about any particular mountings they wish to use.

I have not been able to get the short lengths of rail for them yet - the hole centres are 20mm apart if that helps any of you for the first batch.

Price is £30 posted RMSD.

I have some members with their name on them - those members will be supplied first, IIRC there are about 10 pre- ordered - I shall try to find the PM's but remind me if you read this please guys. There are also two spotter builds waiting for them.

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by clembob » 30 Jan 2015, 17:40

Hi Dave

Please PM me with details for 2 x M42 adaptors and 2 x housings.

Cheers mark :D

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by some bloke » 30 Jan 2015, 18:18

Clembob had 2 on back order. :thumbup:

Also Moonboy, Hywell, and Nautilus21 have back orders and at least one other who I can't find just yet. I'll have to scour the messages for any more.

The last 10 of the first batch will be ready Monday. It was only a small 20 qty initial order in case any errors show up.

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by andybig » 30 Jan 2015, 20:41

Hi Dave how much are they?

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by some bloke » 31 Jan 2015, 00:59

OOPS silly me Andy. They are £30 posted RMSD.

To get that price in perspective with the original ABS welded module which was £90 posted RMSD, the M42 adaptor part would have been £50 if it were available separetely.

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by clembob » 04 Feb 2015, 21:13

Hi Dave
Arrived today excellent components, did a small test with e700 and lens in one hand and a torch in the other great results :wave: :thumbup: now building a spotter scope for the weekend.
Cheers Mark

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by Nautilus21 » 05 Feb 2015, 21:34

Dave

Awesome bit of kit these... Just in case you miss other thread..do these need anything chopping back on the e700 length or do you just need to remove the lens and fit in place..?

Thanks again

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by some bloke » 06 Feb 2015, 00:52

Nautilus21 wrote:Dave

Awesome bit of kit these... Just in case you miss other thread..do these need anything chopping back on the e700 length or do you just need to remove the lens and fit in place..?

Thanks again
Not seen anything else about this yet. They will fit OK and will be at a good focal distance but it's a good idea to still remove some meat from the neck of the E700 if you can.

I'm slightly dyslexic and think I have failed to clearly explain about letting all of the lens see all of the CCD. It's frustrating that I dont have the right words lol. Bear with me while I try to explain with a couple of photos taken from a similar angle to show how the the edge of a lens looking? at the CCD sensor misses the nearest edge to it. I don't have an E700 with the full neck still intact to do a 'before and after' with an M42 adaptor so I'll try to explain with previously photo'd C mount ones.


I've taken this photo from an angle that is somewhere near where the near edge of the rear lens would be viewing the CCD sensor. Note that only about half the sensor is exposed to the nearest edge of the lens,
Hmm, I'll word that in a hopefully more explanatory way: About half of the sensor is obscurred by the long 12mm I/D threaded neck of the E700, so the information coming from the nearest part of the lens is failing to reach the nearest part of the sensor.
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The nearest part of the lens in this photo can clearly view the nearest part of the CCD sensor in this photo - and therefore pass all of the light and image across all of the sensor. The end result has to be more information getting to your viewing screen.
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I still think I've made a pigs ear of the explanation but its about the best I can come up with at the moment. Its probably safe to assume that the edges of a lens don't carry much important information but when the peripheral info is missing from shall we say all four sides of the sensor it has to make a difference. In the low light realm we are striving to improve even a small amount has to be of some value :think:

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by andybig » 06 Feb 2015, 01:53

So if you dont remove some length from the lens holder, it does not allow the whole image and the extra light from the large lens to hit the CCD sensor.
In effect the original height of lens holder causes a reduction in the light transfer. Almost like its casting a shadow?
I bet that little bit makes a massive difference. :thumbup:

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Re: M42/E700 adaptors.

Post by Nautilus21 » 06 Feb 2015, 08:40

HI Dave...

The bit about removing the neck was very clear...it was really more to do with whether I need to amek any adjustments for focal length....

Thanks for clearing up

Cheers again...looking forward to getting it together over the weekend, I have a f1.750mm lens arriving today so should be OK...if not quite as good asomething at f1.5/1.4

Cheers

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