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[bystander]

Hi All,
im gary from bedfordshire, ive just joined the forum, i am a full bore shooter but also do pest control at night using night vision and want to see if u guys have got ideas/upgrades or info that will be useful, looking forward to reading up on the posts.
cheers!

[slimbo1973]

Hi mate

I'm only down the road from you.

What NV do you use at the mo ?

[chas]

Hello Gary and welcome aboard.

I was going to ask, in fact I did ask, What do you use at the moment? But I was beaten to it and had to modify my post cos I was tooooo slow, Ha.

[22-250jock]

welcome aboard gary

plenty of helpful info on here mate

cheers jock

[bystander]

hi slimbo1973 and chas,
im using the ns 50, got to say it quite good but hasnt quite got the range i want, had some good results with it but its no good if im stalking about and want to survey the area for eyeshine

[bystander]

thanks jock,

[some bloke]

Hi Gary - welcome to the forum mate. How did you manage to not get noticed for not putting your town or city as your location for so long?

Anyway, let us know what type of rig you might be looking at - because there are varied levels of 'night vision' these days.

They range from a full blown dedicated 'tubed' gen2/gen3 NV that will never be compromised by any requirement to be usable in the day time... ever. That is the domain of the man with a fat wallet and he gets what he wants to do the job in the best possible way if he can afford it. It is also the most covert because it can be used with ambient light levels most times - and the least amount of artificial IR light at other times.
Cons: Bright lights result in a possible decay of performance - usually expensive to correct.

The cheaper options have varying degrees of compromise - but don't suffer damage from excessive light. Most recent commonly used NV rifle scopes really ought to be called daynight vision scopes in my opinion - which is usually a stand alone opinion This category has variants in it depending on how often you use, or value the night or day aspect - and which aspect you want to be the higher performer.

Next best covert are Dedicated Digital NVD's that sometimes see with just moonlight, and other times with almost as little IR as the above. They have a low light camera sensor working as designed, viewing the field of view through a short wide lens in a wide tube, with the lens having anti reflective coatings optimised for night time wave lengths. They have an adjustable crosshair either behind the viewing screen - or have an electrically generated adjustable crosshair overlaying a viewing screen.
Cons: It's a dedicated rifle rig - which sees a lesser quality image in daylight than a regular daytime use scope, thus they are weighted in favour of NV, but can be used in daylight.

The least covert at night but still very capable, and by far the most versatile and best daytime weighted NV is the type you are familiar with that has to employ more IR to compensate for light loss as it passes through several small lenses in a long small tube after the large objective lens: Many of those lenses will have anti reflective coatings optimised for daytime wavelengths before the light gets to the camera lens. You may need a rubber neck - or learn to use the rifle slightly further forwards than during the daytime because of the position of some of the camera/screens behind your scope. They can be almost instantly fitted to any daytime scope equipped rifle you have and offer the best daytime image clarity. The camera can sometimes be slipped off the rifle to be used as a spotter, when used in that way it sees far better than when its fitted behind the scope. Some of the more recent add-on's have become very compact. The 'rear add-on' rifle is therefore a more versatile day/night rig.
Cons: Require more IR so are least covert, are sometimes quite cumbersome to manoeuvre, and sometimes heavy/top heavy. The cost of the dayscope should be added to the overall shooting optical device.

I have a plywood hat standing by.

[sunndog]

welcome aboard bystander

if you want to upgrade your ns50 theres loads of threads on here doing just that....although i think i'd be tempted to flog the nite-site and build from scratch tbh


dave, you forgot tubed addon's

[PESCA]

bystander, please change your location to your nearest town or city.

Thanks.
George

[slimbo1973]

hi slimbo1973 and chas,
im using the ns 50, got to say it quite good but hasnt quite got the range i want, had some good results with it but its no good if im stalking about and want to survey the area for eyeshine

Sounds like all you need is a spotter . There are a few guys on here that make there own. I went for the easy fix and still get great results ,400 yards+




If you did want to see further with your add on change the camera for the E700 that most of us use