US air strike on the human history protectors

[Midnight.Sun]

The Syrian military did not commit any chemical attack, it's a lie.

"Al Qaida in Belad Al Sham" whom originally called themselves "Al Nusra" Front, then later "Fateh Al Sham" Front, then lastly "Tahrir Al Sham" Front, whom are ruling where the alleged chemical attack happened, followed the orders of their bosses in the Saudi Arabian and Qatari and Turkish intelligence coalition, and detonated a small chemical package (to not kill so many of their civilians) near the place that was hit by a regular Syrian air strike, which was an ammunition warehouse that belonged to the Islamists groups coalition, they did that immediately after the strike. And as they are extreme Islamic ideology groups they usually need to find a religious explanation for everything they do, like in this case "driving away the greater evil" which in this situation means: "hoping to push the new US leadership to change its attitude towards the Syrian government", as they know that the chemical weapons agenda is the only thing that can move the US against the Syrian government.

Why now???
Because the countries that are launching the Jihad War against Syria (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Erdogan's Muslim Brotherhood government in Turkey) where furious about the reached level of positive speach of the US officials -including the US president- towards the Syrian government just two days before the alleged chemical crime took place.

In the end, the human history protectors are the only men that will stay standing in Syria after they crush all the Jihadie's skulls and their retarded Jihad War under their boots, and this oldie is for them:

https://youtu.be/V3nXRXLJexw

[Radagast]

Thanks MS. I thought it was something like that.

[jackal1]

I must admit i thought along those lines aswell but had the cia down as involved.

[Radagast]

CIA were involved in setting up Ergodan's fake coup that allowed him to seize dictatorial power, if press reports at the time are to be believed. Assad is backed by the Russians and the Iranians. A pro American puppet govt. or pro- Saudi Sunni theocracy would a) toss the Russians out of their only Mediterranean naval base at Tarsus, b) stop resupply overland of Hezbollah, c) make deals on disputed borders with Turkey & Israel, d) potentially allow a gas pipeline through to Turkey, e) execute those in the Syrian regime who allowed terrorists to pass through to attack US forces during the Iraq occupation.
_Anything_ happening in the Middle East is part of the Great Game. If an atrocity occurs that allows a massive response then it was planed in advance so the massive retaliation could be pre-positioned. Tomahawks are expensive and do not grow on trees. They require major fleet units to be in range. Allied airforces could have struck the same location at less expense - hell the Australian airforce has clocked up over 900 airstrikes alone in Syria and Iraq and ours is one of the smallest detachments.

[sedstar]

"by way of deception, thou shalt do war" - official motto of the MOSSAD

[rodp]

In my almost 64 years on this earth what I have learnt is (A) You'll never really know what's happening, (B) You'll never really know what's going to happen, (C) "They" don't give a monkeys whether you agree with it or not, it's going to happen so suck it up.

You can keep guessing about who, what and where, but you'll never know the truth.

[Midnight.Sun]

This time i didn't say that's my POV, or according to that, or I think, and I'll continue to. It's not that I've seen or heard or touched anything, because I haven't done any of that, but because of far beyond reasons that might get semi-explained sometime in the very near future. So now I'll just continue:

Yes you are both right, CIA had a lot to do with it, and the Mossad but not much as significant, (by the way both are just national agencies that are just trying to do their payed for jobs the best way they can, assuming), Mossad they had a little interest/involvement of their own, a minor side-interest of taking out more od the Syrian air defence system, especially in the middle area of Syria, which had previously answered on the last Israeli air strike in that area, which put their aircrafts in real close danger, and made them really mad, but that's not enough of a reason for the Tomahawks, because there still plenty of air defence, but you can imagine how they gave the US big approval on the strike. One of the the common thing is they both lips it to the Saudi royal family as they done it for them, "aren't you happy, friends", like delivery for payment.

Ahhh sorry, hot meal arrived, sorry I wasn't planning to write. Will get back soon.

[Radagast]

Chatting with a guy who trained for Sarin & VX attacks, the casualties don't match. IIRC 11 people died in the Tokyo subway attack, thousands were injured by residual contamination trying to help the initial victims. The people carrying out the wounded should have died or been violently ill. Decontamination meant dropping clothing and jewellery, then heavy showers before treatment, not something I expect was available in Syria. Trump just damaged his relationship with the libertarian anti war wing of his party, reduced the chance for peace in Syria and damaged the relationship with Putin. All on the basis of advice from intelligence agencies that have been trying to undermine his cabinet picks and spied on him prior to the inauguration. Hillary Clinton and her pet press are backing the strikes, which tells us they think he shot himself in the foot.
The Syrian dead are just collateral damage in America's Game of Thrones.

[Midnight.Sun]

Exactly, that's much of the CIA role I meant to talk about, but written in better English. Just add to that the possibility of Trump's approval to the CIA plan to de-attach him from the Russians, like:
1) You and your cabinet talk so sweet about the Syrian government (or Assad), so sweet that you make the Russians feel good about it, and regain confidence im you.
2) Then out of sudden.. Ooops, what's that, chemical attack!! Oh no, sorry I can't stay put, actions will be made, your mistake Russia not mine, I have to change my opinion on Syria now, Sorry.

The Turkish government is the only side that said it was Sarin, I doubt it was anything so effectively toxic, the Turkish, Qatari, and Saudies know better what it was.

CIA were involved in setting up Ergodan's fake coup that allowed him to seize dictatorial power, if press reports at the time are to be believed.
I thought so too, you remember I wrote that in a thread here in the forum while it was happening.

Assad is backed by the Russians and the Iranians. A pro American puppet govt. or pro- Saudi Sunni theocracy would:
a) toss the Russians out of their only Mediterranean naval base at Tarsus.
Extremely difficult to let happen, I know that you agree, but I don't think you know to what extent.
In English, it is written Tartus, or sometimes Tartous. Vocally, it is Trtoos, or T'artoos, with a light "a".

b) stop resupply overland of Hezbollah.
Correct, Israel likes that to be done. Can't blame them so much, but I differ with them about that, because Hezb-allah (Arabic meaning: Party of God) is a lot different from the other Islamic religions parties/armed groups, Hezballa in Lebanon are Shiaa Muslims (similar to all the Shiaa's Islamic parties in Iraq) they are a lot (a lot) more rational than any Sunni Muslims parties or even Sunni individual, Shiaa don't believe in Jihad or occupying other nations, the only Jihad they believe in is self defence , and as Iran is their only Shiaa Islamic country (or republic!) and it is their "Mekka", and you know Iran is the same old Persian Empire, a very well respected and historic nation, so they are like the Persians, they are rational and science accepting people, a lot different from the back worded Arab Nation. The Shiaa originally are Arabs, enlightened Arabs, so they were massacred by the Islamic Khalifet ruling (1400 years ago) just like all the rest of the different ethnic groups (and Nations) in the region, that's why they are fighting alongside the Syrian and Russian armies against the Sunni Jihadi Fascists Saudi-Arabian Ideology (Wahabi Salafi Terrorists) groups that are attacking Syria, whom are mostly Syrian Sunni ex-citizens allied with Jihadists from the Arabic and foreign countries. But on the other hand there remained many (the majority) rational Sunni Syrians and other Sunnies all over the world are not Salafies Wahabies (Saudi ideology), and are against the Jihad War on Syria or on any other place in the world (but many others are not, and their numbers are able to grow fast because of their parenting mentality).
The problem between Iran/Shiaa and Israel, is a historical fault that Iran fell in, just like most of the so-called Arab countries (because other than the Gulf countries in the Arabian Peninsula, there are no Arab countries, from the sudden borders of Jordan and Iraq all the way to Morraco in the west North Africa, there is not a single Arab country, just hardly Arabic speaking countries, out of Arabic Islamic occupation and oppression). The Saudi sunni-poppet Yaser Arafat and his associates Palestinian armed groups, took flight to Iran the next day after the Islamic Shiaa revolution seized power in Iran, and started selling the Arabic Palestine fake cause, also Israel was occupying southern Lebanon (the land of Lebanese Shiaa Muslims) at the time, which was convenient for completing the plot.
Israel needs to know that the Palestine cause is originally in its pure form just an Islamic Fascist agenda, everything else was misleading propaganda (bought with oil money) lies, the Arabic-occupied Nations stupidly carried it too.
I think the acceptance of the right of the Jewish People to return to their original homeland in The Holy Land (Israel) is something the regional nations including Iran will come to naturally, simply by liberating themselves from the Arabic false claimed ethnicity. We all must go back to our original selves prior the terrible Arabic Islamic invasion.
1948 Arabs remained in Israel normally, so will some real Arab Muslims and many non-Arab Muslims remain in the region, they will have the right to live normally, and make normal families (of normal limited numbers), so many of them might like to go back to their older religion (mostly Christianity especially cities inhabitants), but many others might remain on Islam, all religions will be followed freely in the new Nation (or Nations) all equall, but with many corrected practices (no load noise at night, for example) and limited children birth to all groups by law, but minorities will have to get their numbers systematically increased and their culture revived, peace and prosperity must be mutual and normal, and all nations must live in harmony.
By then this liberated Christian Nation (ex-occupied countries by the Arabs) with its variety of cultures under the one original Christian historic culture will advance quickly, no need to fear its progress, the western world needs to understand that, and look forward for making strong friendship relation with it.

c) make deals on disputed borders with Turkey & Israel.
Will be normal thing in the future, as Turkey will go back to it's original ethnicity inside the future nations.


d) potentially allow a gas pipeline through to Turkey.
Never, the Arabs in the Gulf will never even dream of it ever again. Our Russian brothers's and Iranian friends's oil and gas pipelines will never have any competition coming across our great wide land. The Gulf Arab states (if they remained on the map) will only sell their oil and gas to us in the future Syrian Nation, and for ridiculously low prices, they will be buying even salt in exchange, we will be the middle market for their cheap oil and gas, and they will be under our military influence and sanctions for the rest of their lives. They are already down hill with speed now, there's no way out for them anymore.

e) execute those in the Syrian regime who allowed terrorists to pass through to attack US forces during the Iraq occupation.
You are right to say "those in the Syrian regime" (not all), because a lot of the past behaviour of the Syrian regime was suggested and got across by sinister (pro-Saudi) Syrian Sunni officials, like for example "Abd Haleem Khadam" the ex-vice president, who met the Iraqi Sunni Tribes immediately after the American invasion (there is TV archived footage for that meeting) I'm not saying he acted alone. He also holds responsible for all what our fellow Lebanese Christians suffered in their civil war, and its after math because of the Saudi-Syrian coalition at that time. I condemn every previous behaviour that was dictated by Islamic Arabic agenda inside the old regime, but I don't condemn anything that the current regime is doing now to salvage the Syrian Nation.
No member or soldier of the regime will be executed, and certainly not Assad, those did their job and hard it was, they will live safely and respectfully inside Syria, adapting and contributing in its coming future, in honest truthful manner, ander -equal to all- national constitution and laws.
Crimes against humanity from all parties (including the government) will be individually carefully studied in a National honest open court, no out-law criminal will be spared from justice. But also giving orders to military and allied armed groups to protect the Syrian Nation, will not be held as crimes, we won't do that to our national heros.

_Anything_ happening in the Middle East is part of the Great Game. Those are fascinating two words when are put together, the Great Game you are referring to is a Great Plan (or the Bigger Plan), not The Greater Game (or The Bigger Game), the Plan is one thing, but the Game is a whole other dimension. On The Great Game I might write sometime in another thread, maybe!? Although it's unprecedented AFAIK, so, will see what happens. If an atrocity occurs that allows a massive response then it was planed in advance so the massive retaliation could be pre-positioned. Tomahawks are expensive and do not grow on trees. Nice stuff, I liked them a lot, effective and precise, we as a long-lost nation need our better educated next generations to have some serious catching up to do, to not let ourselves get occupied ever again. They require major fleet units to be in range. Allied airforces could have struck the same location at less expense - hell the Australian airforce has clocked up over 900 airstrikes alone in Syria and Iraq and ours is one of the smallest detachments. You forgot about the S400 Russian air defence system. BTW, only 23 Tomahawks from 59 ones were able to reach their targets, according to the Russians, thd US military didn't state otherwise. I think that was only intentional from the Russians, they apparently are still studying their reactions carefully towards the US possible cooperation.

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[sedstar]

wait a minute? what gas was it?

SARIN was used in the subway attacks... what was the gas used in THIS attack?

plus? LD-50 carrying out wounded "outdoors" will be different than LD-50 carrying out wounded in an enclosed underground theatre...

now... reports i just got (european? not american yellow journalism, i was born at night, just not LAST night) anyways, reports are coming in the @-hole regime attacked the HOSPITAL to try to get rid of the "evidence"...

aint like this guy aint bombed and shot women and children civvy's, you know... and as any serviceman can tell you? you have to kill the proper people, wearing the proper clothes... women and children are not targets.

PUTIN was a former "russian intelligence officer", which is like saying he's good at making up good stories... i aint half about to believe anything on a arabic website in arabic (what was posted)... and you UK blokes are dealing with terrorists just like us yanks, they cant be trusted to tell you the correct time, let alone the truth.

the prigs stabbed one of your own queens guards proper, they did... you trust their story about it?

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