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Re: Well I never.

Post by cliveward » 12 Aug 2013, 18:16

sunndog wrote:
cliveward wrote:
sunndog wrote:the baffling thing though rodders is that its not a bad unit. the price is comparable with nite-site and it can outperform it with the right i.r

and he was posting on here about it at one time. and was clawing a little respect back.....like i say. bizzare
Hi Adam,

Thanks for the excellent unbiased review of the Ward-D-Vision by the way.

I was actually trying to do the right thing by the forum by staying off of it. I was in discussion with Geoff and George re. advertising and sponsoring the forum and didn't feel it would be appropriate for me to post about our products while this wasn't concluded. Also I didn't want to generate any more hype and put us in a position of never catching up on orders.

There's no conspiracy or funny business. We were just busy sorting out manufacture and looking after the pre-orders.

Now that we are clear and caught up with the units in stock and the manufacturing process to back it up I've been able to conclude the advertising issue with George so now I feel I can post on the forum in good conscience and indeed looking forward to joining in the other discussions on here.


Cheers





Clive

ayup clive
i never thought there was any kind of conspiracy just could'nt fathom your un-timely disapearance

your quite welcome to an unbiased review, i actually do like the unit on the whole
the only time it really falls short is it hasent quite got the legs for a full 350yrd fox shot. but to be fair you never claimed it was a foxing tool.....i'd be more than happy to trial any upgraded versions for you, f.o.c of course! lol
i'm sure you've read this from me before. but i'v got you cornered now
on the current W-D-V that bloody power button needs moving. thats the biggest bug bear i have with it
when i get round to it i'm gonna swap the power button and three pin plug around

also the rubber eye cup lets the unit down mate. its got a right cheapo feel to it....the one you fitted is about 8 quid on ant supplies a much nicer one next to it is a pound more, and thats retail....a tiny extra investment there would make a big difference in perceived quality

and while i'v got you. is it ok to run the unit while its being charged from an external 12v battery?


you'll be sorry you reply'd to me lol

.......adam
Hi Adam,

Excellent! As you've noticed there are some minor compromises on the design. The whole point of the exercise was to cure everything that I saw was wrong with add ons and then make it affordable and simple.

With the switch and socket positions they are dictated by the tooling. At present the mould tool doesn't need any 'shuts' which are extra bits of the tool to make holes in the short sides of the casing. Shuts increase the cost of the tool and the manufacturing. Not by a lot but it's another added cost which could only be passed on as the margin is so tight. Anything fitted on the centre rear location (where the socket is) needs to be externally mounted (does up from the outside) and we did look at a LOT of switches and the one we use which I think has a great tactile feel to it and is completely silent is only available as a panel mount.

Yes the camera isn't the one with quite the most legs available, but what it does very well is handle light levels. So you can use loads of IR at close range and it doesn't clip and exposes well (oo-er). Again this makes the shooting process simple in that the the IR doesn't need adjusting from short to long range. This is quite important for the intended audience of Air / Rimfire shooters. Having said that I don't have a problem using it on my .223

The whole thing is designed to be upgradeable as and when things move on and any improvements we make would be able to be done to the original version. i.e. if we did a really super dooper long range version for solely centre fire rifles the original could be upgraded for the difference in price between the 2 models.

Agreed on the eyepiece rubber. Again we tried a fair few and this one does double duty of keeping the eyepiece focus assembly dry and sealed up and was the best for that purpose. The ones we have now are still the same mould but a softer matt finish rubber. Also if you are using it on a light recoiling rifle you can whizz round the front of it with a stanley knife and knock 12mm off the overall length of the unit.

On the 12v charger the battery is protected and the device doesn't have a massive draw. It should be fine but for your own piece of mind keep an eye on the temperature of the charger :thumbup:


Cheers





Clive

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Re: Well I never.

Post by PESCA » 12 Aug 2013, 18:25

cliveward wrote:
sunndog wrote:the baffling thing though rodders is that its not a bad unit. the price is comparable with nite-site and it can outperform it with the right i.r

and he was posting on here about it at one time. and was clawing a little respect back.....like i say. bizzare
Hi Adam,

Thanks for the excellent unbiased review of the Ward-D-Vision by the way.

I was actually trying to do the right thing by the forum by staying off of it. I was in discussion with Geoff and George re. advertising and sponsoring the forum and didn't feel it would be appropriate for me to post about our products while this wasn't concluded. Also I didn't want to generate any more hype and put us in a position of never catching up on orders.

There's no conspiracy or funny business. We were just busy sorting out manufacture and looking after the pre-orders.

Now that we are clear and caught up with the units in stock and the manufacturing process to back it up I've been able to conclude the advertising issue with George so now I feel I can post on the forum in good conscience and indeed looking forward to joining in the other discussions on here.


Cheers





Clive
By "conclude the advertising issue with George", I'd just like to make it clear that Clive has been told that there is no advertising space available to him on the forum.

So, the only conclusion for him, is that there will be no advertising for him on here, either paid or intimated.

I'm afraid that his post may give the impression that we've come to a moot point where Clive will be okay to promote his products.

Just for the sake of transparency, you understand :)

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Re: Well I never.

Post by cliveward » 12 Aug 2013, 18:40

PESCA wrote:
cliveward wrote:
sunndog wrote:the baffling thing though rodders is that its not a bad unit. the price is comparable with nite-site and it can outperform it with the right i.r

and he was posting on here about it at one time. and was clawing a little respect back.....like i say. bizzare
Hi Adam,

Thanks for the excellent unbiased review of the Ward-D-Vision by the way.

I was actually trying to do the right thing by the forum by staying off of it. I was in discussion with Geoff and George re. advertising and sponsoring the forum and didn't feel it would be appropriate for me to post about our products while this wasn't concluded. Also I didn't want to generate any more hype and put us in a position of never catching up on orders.

There's no conspiracy or funny business. We were just busy sorting out manufacture and looking after the pre-orders.

Now that we are clear and caught up with the units in stock and the manufacturing process to back it up I've been able to conclude the advertising issue with George so now I feel I can post on the forum in good conscience and indeed looking forward to joining in the other discussions on here.


Cheers





Clive
By "conclude the advertising issue with George", I'd just like to make it clear that Clive has been told that there is no advertising space available to him on the forum.

So, the only conclusion for him, is that there will be no advertising for him on here, either paid or intimated.

I'm afraid that his post may give the impression that we've come to a moot point where Clive will be okay to promote his products.

Just for the sake of transparency, you understand :)

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Hi George,

Thanks for that statement as I didn't want to go into any detail but thought it worth mentioning regarding my absence of posts for a while.

That was the best way I could think of describing it without elaborating on the info that you sent me, as I treat any comms received as confidential.

While I'm happy to answer direct questions of a technical or design nature on our products that normal users may not be able to answer and join in the general discussions you can rest assured there will be no spammage from me. :thumbup:


Cheers





Clive

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Re: Well I never.

Post by sunndog » 12 Aug 2013, 19:04

george, theres obviously some shizznizz going on behind the scenes there. but it does clarify things a bit

clive, posts like these are brilliant and just what we want

i'm gonna assume you've read my other W-D-V threads
i do like the power button, lovely little thing....its just the position its so easy to turn on accidentally esp in storage its a major issue for me

as for the cam. before you released the unit you said on here it was good for 200yrds or so with an n1000
so me saying its not a dedicated foxing tool is not a criticism, because you never claimed it was
i do find it quite i.r fussy compared to a watec though tbh

just had a look at what eyecup i was gonna put on my unit. it was a bisley one.....i never got round to trying it but i will
in fairness i dont think you would want a branded eyecup on your own device
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