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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by rodp » 09 Aug 2017, 23:02

some bloke wrote:Might be smoke and mirrors for north to go after south again and give USA a bloody nose in the process.

Don't think the states are going to wait around for a bloody nose, got a feeling they'll get the first punch in, and it's probably going to be a knockout punch. :shock:
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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by silent shooter » 10 Aug 2017, 00:24

Trump seems to use his presidency like a kid with a new bloody toy,to be honest I agree with more of his views than I care to admit but It scares the shite out of me that he just might push that big red button.
His wealth hasn't been acquired by sitting on fences or caring what others think,he's an impulsive and perhaps very dangerous man.
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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by some bloke » 10 Aug 2017, 05:39

Thing is he doesn't need to press that big red button just yet - we'll perhaps get to see a few more MOAB results soon. There's been plenty opportunity to get a few in the vicinity by now.

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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by phoenix » 10 Aug 2017, 07:32

Here's a pretty fair assessment of the USA options regarding North Korea https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... th/528717/
Not the best news for Mr. Trump.

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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by hairyyoda » 10 Aug 2017, 19:53

Tend to think that there is going to be a increased production of MOAB's just in case ?
If it does start, the choice of using Nuclear will upset to many neighbouring countries ?
Interesting to think "what would Putin do if Russia was threatened by someone like Kim Jan Jong Jing Jung loose cannon ?
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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by phoenix » 10 Aug 2017, 21:07

The USA and Russia both have enough nuclear weapons to wipe the other side out and essentially end human life on earth, and both know that if one starts launching nuclear missiles, the other can detect the launch and launch a retaliatory strike before the first missiles hit, resulting in both sides being wiped out.
That doctrine - called Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) is what has kept us safe since the end of WW2.
Bampot Trump doesn't understand this stuff - he simply doesn't have the intellectual capability to understand the consequences of launching a nuclear attack on North Korea.
The USA doesn't know where all the North Korean nukes are, and the North Koreans would detect an incoming US missile strike in time to launch a few nukes of their own.
It would only take one North Korean nuke to land on US soil, and all the deaths and nuclear fallout resulting from it to make attacking of Kim Jong Un seem a totally stupid thing to do.
The real problem here is that Bampot Trump is such a narcissist that he cannot bear anyone getting more publicity than him, so when Kim Jong Un comes out with his usual bellicose crap, Bampot Trump has to respond with even more bellicose crap.
Even if Bampot Trump ordered a nuclear strike against North Korea, I think his generals would simply ignore the order.

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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by silent shooter » 10 Aug 2017, 21:51

Bruce I can't believe that these crackpots are having what seems like a personal battle of he said we said crap with millions of lives at stake,surely there advisers need to step in and say hold on a minute your a pair of nutters.

Big problem that worries me is that if it does kick off were does that leave us and many other countries,as I said earlier it scares the carp out of me.

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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by phoenix » 10 Aug 2017, 22:03

Both of these guys live in bubbles that divorce them from reality.
Anybody who as much as farts at the wrong time around Kim Jong Un is dead.
Both Rex Tilllerson and James Mattis have both made public statements that effectively said the opposite of Bampot Trump so there are at least a few people around him who do have a grasp of reality
I don't think it's going to end in serious military action, and I think Kim Jong Un will continue to wind up Bampot Trump.
The end effect, when the USA does nothing after all Bampot Trumps' threats will simply be to make him look even more stupid and ineffective.

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Re: North Korea, what's gonna happen

Post by rodp » 14 Aug 2017, 17:30

The big problem Bruce is that Kim Dim fatboy has no advisors that are allowed to contradict his whims. They may think fatboy is wrong, they will probably KNOW fatboy is foolish and playing with fire, but they'll not utter a word. Fatboy himself actually believes he's directly descended from the Gods and can do no wrong, he believes every thought he has comes straight from the mountain Gods so must be the way to go. If that wasn't enough a vast majority of the North Korean population also believe that, hence the willingness to live in abject poverty and starvation while he stuffs himself with huge quantities of the finest food, they actually like him doing so.

We know fatboy isn't right in the head, we know he has a few wires loose, and we also know his orders cannot be countermanded. We must now assume he actually believes he can take on the States and their allies and win, as in his mental state (being a direct descendant of the Gods) he cannot do any wrong.
Don't think nukes will come in to it though, more likely just one massive missile and airstrike to take out NK missiles and fatboy himself.

Wonder if there's any special forces blokes over there waiting for a potshot, or if they could even get close enough :think:
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