Electric shooting truck anyone ?

[cliveward]

Hi All,

I see with the EU dissappearing and Foreign Aid reducing, this is the new trough for the quangos and government advisers to bung their snouts firmly in.


Cheers





Clive

[hairyyoda]

Is that a 2CV concept car?

Now't wrong with a silly Citroen Adam , brilliant ground clearance, three Weetabix and lifting each corner out of a small ditch was no trouble , removable seats, roll back full length sunroof, cheap as chips on petrol, had a few hours 40 years ago in a tubular framed buggy that had 2CV trailing arms as part of it's suspension, it was similar to trying to stay on a trampoline that was being towed over rough ground by a race horse , hilarious fun if you didn't mind some bruises and the odd bit of blood loss
H2O has got to be the way forward, run on the 2 parts of Hydrogen and blow the remaining part of Oxygen in via intercooler, a win, win result "sea levels could be lowered in a jiffy when we all drive using water "
Thanks
Phil

[silent shooter]

Ha ha, so the powers that be want no more internal combustion powered vehicles after 2040 !! Fat chance of that. As it stands you can do a quick charge of 30 minutes, but it's not fully charged and it nails the batteries if used too frequently. It seems 8 hours is the required charging time at the moment and they reckon there's no viable alternative battery on the horizon.
So, filling station will have to have literally dozens of charging points and facilities for drivers / passengers to wait for several hours. It's also said that we will need a further seven power stations to provide the necessary leccy, who's sponsoring that ?


Don't think our little arab friends will be too worried about this, not for the forseeable future.

http://www.riversimple.com/ and made in Wales as a bonus
Phil

As I drove through Merthyr Tydfil yesterday I spotted a Welshman trying to bump start one of these,well he was behind it and bumping up and down so I assume that's what he was doing !!!

[rodp]

Now come on Phil, where you gonna put the sheep in one of those



Our little muslim friends will love those, halfway to a Hydrogen bomb already

[hairyyoda]

[/quote]As I drove through Merthyr Tydfil yesterday I spotted a Welshman trying to bump start one of these,well he was behind it and bumping up and down so I assume that's what he was doing !!![/quote]
Silent Shooter "are you sure he did not have a ewe in the boot ?" there are some odd people in these parts with very strange attractions to a friendly ewe Next time take a closer look, and check if it might have been a case of newly found animal love if the ewe was or smiling it's not classed as animal cruelty.
There is little hope for mankind unless we all become and do a bit to save the planet
Sorry in advance
Phil

[hairyyoda]

There is a documentary somewhere "of a person running around the Scottish Islands or Highlands in a DIY Hydrogen Fuel Cell vehicle" if he can get it all sorted out to work O/K many miles away from garages and machine shops there must be some hope for the rest of us ?
Thanks
Phil

[hairyyoda]

http://gas2.org/2016/05/01/despite-doub ... -scotland/
These Scottish people are far from dull, as B.C. said
Thanks
Phil

[rodp]

There is a documentary somewhere "of a person running around the Scottish Islands or Highlands in a DIY Hydrogen Fuel Cell vehicle" if he can get it all sorted out to work O/K many miles away from garages and machine shops there must be some hope for the rest of us ?
Thanks
Phil

Don't think using Hydrogen is the problem, but I believe there's been a few charred and blackened folk around trying to make the hydrogen in the first place.


Dave's at a loose end nowadays, I think he ought to set up distilling hydrogen on the side

[phoenix]

We have some hydrogen powered busses in Aberdeen and the council has built a hydrogen refuelling station.
All very green you might say - but where is the hydrogen coming from?
It's coming from the hydrogen in hydrocarbons - that's oil and gas to you and me
If you wanted to make it truly green, you'd need to generate direct current electricity using wind, wave or solar power and the electrolise water to produce hydrogen and oxygen.
You'd also need s*it load of electricity to compress the hydrogen to a pressure that would give you enough gas in a small enough volume to provide any vehicle with a reasonable range
Storage is also an issue, although it's flammability is overstated - a tank of petrol is much more dangerous than a similar size tank of hydrogen.

Cheers

Bruce

[rodp]

We have some hydrogen powered busses in Aberdeen and the council has built a hydrogen refuelling station.
All very green you might say - but where is the hydrogen coming from?
It's coming from the hydrogen in hydrocarbons - that's oil and gas to you and me
If you wanted to make it truly green, you'd need to generate direct current electricity using wind, wave or solar power and the electrolise water to produce hydrogen and oxygen.
You'd also need s*it load of electricity to compress the hydrogen to a pressure that would give you enough gas in a small enough volume to provide any vehicle with a reasonable range
Storage is also an issue, although it's flammability is overstated - a tank of petrol is much more dangerous than a similar size tank of hydrogen.

Cheers

Bruce

Isn't it the expansion rate of flammable gasses that make them so dangerous when they go up, I know from hazchem days gasses were a lot more serious than unleaded.

You're right about Hydrogen though, it will cause more pollution to get it than it will save.

other thing though, I've just come back from few days in Wiltshire. Around here I average app 13 mph and 17mpg, down there out of town I average 25mph and 30mpg. Now, to me that says if you REALLY wanted to cut pollution (and not just make more money) councils would ease congestion. Simple things like put bus stop laybys back in place, link traffic lights so traffic flows through, make slip roads actually big enough for all the motors turning right or left.
But, if you just wanted to cream more money off motorists you obstruct traffic, blame them for pollution, make up some daft story about electric cars (that you know can never come to fruition) then say delay on leccy cars so will have to tax petrol / diesel even more to cover costs.

me .. cynical... never