Hello from Philippines

[tammins707]

welcome aboard fella.

just keep on calling mark "that other guy" and we'll consider it payment enough lol

Hehehe, I forgot his name. Actually I couldn't really pick up some of his words in his video (no offense), ahh, my ears are not that sharp!

I've watched his review on watec and ej230 but its a frustration when I checked the prices on ebay!

[AirRifleSport]

22lr rimfire, then I will mount the NV that I'll gonna build.

nice one

so what other quarry do you shoot, other than rats?

cheers jock

I hunt wild pigs in the forest, especially when they start to be a nuisance in the rootcrops of the farmers. I hunt monkeys when they attack the corn. And this one, you might not believed, I hunt fruit bats when they attack the fruit trees, especially the "lanzones and rambutan" they're very tasty and swarm of bats will likely attack it at night.

I used to hunt these bats at night using a flashlight but success is not that good. That's why it feels wonderful when I saw what you people have done! Man, its amazing!

Welcome to the forum.
Regarding bats... I don't know how their vision work but I have had several occasions where bats have followed the infrared beam of light that I was shining along the hedge line. Can they see IR?
I wonder...

[tammins707]

They are a bit edgy when hit by a flashlight. So I just wait for them to hang there and power on the flashlight and look for the eyes and press the trigger.

[22-250jock]

22lr rimfire, then I will mount the NV that I'll gonna build.

nice one

so what other quarry do you shoot, other than rats?

cheers jock

I hunt wild pigs in the forest, especially when they start to be a nuisance in the rootcrops of the farmers. I hunt monkeys when they attack the corn. And this one, you might not believed, I hunt fruit bats when they attack the fruit trees, especially the "lanzones and rambutan" they're very tasty and swarm of bats will likely attack it at night.

I used to hunt these bats at night using a flashlight but success is not that good. That's why it feels wonderful when I saw what you people have done! Man, its amazing!

sounds like good fun

I would think making yourself a NV unit will give much better results than just a torch

cheers jock

[tammins707]

Yes you are right. I'm starting the build and have read the DIY forum up to page 7. But there's some that I really don't understand. I need help and some patience, lol:
1. What's the difference between board and bullet camera?
2. If board, how do you mount it?
3. What is CS lens?
4. I need a link of tried and proven products, I've read in page 7 that he buy the monitor thinking it was 640x480, and its not.
5. Last , my maximum range will be 100 meters, so what is the best for this range? I don't want to shoot more than 100, my eyes are not that good anymore.

[Radagast]

Bullet cam comes in a long round tube. Hence bullet.
Board cam is mounted on a printed circuit board. Usually you then buy a plastic 'electronic project' box, cut holes in it for the lens, power leads, etc and mount the board cam in the box.
Then there is the Watec series, which are basically box cams, they come pre-mounted in a box rather than a tube. Just to confuse the issue, Watec also make board cams.
A bullet cam can often be mounted in weaver type rings, a Watec can be mounted in a day scope adaptor intended for tubed night vision. A board cam box will usually require fitting a tube in front of the lens that will slip over the end of your scope.
A CS mount lens is a lens with a focal distance to the camera from the flange (mounting) of the lens of 12.5mm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_mount

Rolaids V1.0 is probably the best one to start with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wnNFR99xGI
There is a list of parts and suppliers in the description of the video. The video covers how to bolt it together, it is good to 150 meters.
You can use many of the parts for other builds if you wish to in the future.

[tammins707]

Thanks a lot. Yes, I've been looking at Rolaids video and just been undecided and looking for other options, but you were right. I'll go with this build. This is "loud and clear" video and maybe in a months time, I'll have my NV.

Next will be the illuminator. What is the difference between the laser and the torch?

Thanks for the help, I'm grateful.

[Radagast]

with lasers you can swing one around while saying "Luke, I am your father." in a robotic voice.

More to the point, take on the following.
Lasers give a grainy or granulated light, LEDs give a clean, smooth light. Case in point, Marky610s latest video demonstrating the Yukon Photon. the first part of the video was shot with the on-board IR laser, the second with a cheap torch with a good IR LED fitted. The first part looks like it was shot through wire mesh, the second is very clean. Vid is in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3587
Take that cheap IR torch, add a good head/lens/LED and it will also compete with a laser for range. The newer Marky Light designs by Marky 610 will flood a field out to 400 meters or more, the bigger ones will go a lot further. A few hours going through his Youtube channel will 'enlighten' you.
So at the moment LEDs rule for quality of image.

The next thing to consider is safety. IR lasers are invisible to the naked eye, there is no blink reflex involved, so there is the chance of causing blindness if shone in someones eye or the eyes of livestock is an issue. There is a thread on laser safety in the illuminator forum. Read it before purchasing.

Next is the wavelength. The longer the wavelength (higher number) the less visible the light is to game. 850nm is still noticeable by some critters, 940 is not. For less than 100m I would go the 940. If you need to spot your backstop to make sure there are no people or livestock, then an 850 will give longer viewing distance.

My take? Just get the Pulsar LED 940 torch and go shooting. After you have played for a while you can consider upgrading. Some Bloke and Sikastag both sell parts and complete units for custom torches, Sikastag is effectively the licensed manufacturer of the Marky Light designs.

[tammins707]

Wow, very nice and well detailed explanations! Man, thanks very much.

I will contact sikastag about the torch. Hope hes reading this and can give me quote with shipping to Philippines.

This project will drain me and I am thinking of selling my SW model 3000 12gauge to raise some money!
Oh well, happy and fun cost money, yes?

[Radagast]

The S&W 3000 pump action shotgun was actually made by Howa in Japan and rebranded by S&W from 1983 on. Howa are a quality manufacturer, they also manufacture the Weatherby Vanguard series of rifles, which were also sold as the S&W 1500.
I'm a NV newb, but I'm something of a S&W expert.