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Electricians.

Post by chas » 27 Dec 2015, 21:58

Any sparkies on-board ?

Going to have to fit a load of extra sockets in the garage, I have a sparkie lined up to do some other work but want to fit the 13a sockets and conduit myself before he arrives.
My question is, What size cable should I run to each socket ( 6 in total ) and back again ?
He can then do the final check and connecting to the mains, existing wiring is a bit yuk so would like him to do that for safety's sake, I will just leave him loose ends.


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Post by Kevgun » 27 Dec 2015, 22:44

2.5mm twinflex and Earth, done the same in my new garage and just got a sparkle to commission it :thumbup:

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Post by chas » 27 Dec 2015, 22:52

Very many thanks for that, tomorrows job now sorted :thumbup:
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Post by Frogman Ladue » 27 Dec 2015, 23:11

In the garage, I'd say at least two circuits as you will need to keep the beer fridge plugged in, and fire up something big like a radial arm saw, and not blow a breaker.

I'd go 6x GFCI, (UL, IBEW approved) 20A service (going to pay a bit more for these), receptacles. Code almost always demands a min of 6" radius conduit on new work for external or garages. This will limit you to at least 3/4" sticks. I'd pull two (better three) circuits of 10ga stranded, and bond all grounds with bare 10. Seeing as its a separate structure with moisture, you'll also need to run a another rod. 8foot would be best. Bury the entire thing. Keep it about 2 foot off the foundation, as you need to sink these in dirt...gravel or sand will not do. 25 A breakers per circuit should be plenty for home use. Bond the box. Bond the water pipes too.

And now would be a good time to check all the starter caps on the electric tools. This will keep unnecessary starter load out of the system.
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Post by some bloke » 27 Dec 2015, 23:42

Frogman Ladue wrote:In the garage, I'd say at least two circuits as you will need to keep the beer fridge plugged in, and fire up something big like a radial arm saw, and not blow a breaker.

I'd go 6x GFCI, (UL, IBEW approved) 20A service (going to pay a bit more for these), receptacles. Code almost always demands a min of 6" radius conduit on new work for external or garages. This will limit you to at least 3/4" sticks. I'd pull two (better three) circuits of 10ga stranded, and bond all grounds with bare 10. Seeing as its a separate structure with moisture, you'll also need to run a another rod. 8foot would be best. Bury the entire thing. Keep it about 2 foot off the foundation, as you need to sink these in dirt...gravel or sand will not do. 25 A breakers per circuit should be plenty for home use. Bond the box. Bond the water pipes too.

And now would be a good time to check all the starter caps on the electric tools. This will keep unnecessary starter load out of the system.
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Post by CustomRifleScopesUK » 28 Dec 2015, 00:21

I always go a little higher.......that way you can always expand, every one always does in the end :thumbup:

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Post by 2011 fawcett » 28 Dec 2015, 13:03

some bloke wrote:
Frogman Ladue wrote:In the garage, I'd say at least two circuits as you will need to keep the beer fridge plugged in, and fire up something big like a radial arm saw, and not blow a breaker.

I'd go 6x GFCI, (UL, IBEW approved) 20A service (going to pay a bit more for these), receptacles. Code almost always demands a min of 6" radius conduit on new work for external or garages. This will limit you to at least 3/4" sticks. I'd pull two (better three) circuits of 10ga stranded, and bond all grounds with bare 10. Seeing as its a separate structure with moisture, you'll also need to run a another rod. 8foot would be best. Bury the entire thing. Keep it about 2 foot off the foundation, as you need to sink these in dirt...gravel or sand will not do. 25 A breakers per circuit should be plenty for home use. Bond the box. Bond the water pipes too.

And now would be a good time to check all the starter caps on the electric tools. This will keep unnecessary starter load out of the system.
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ISTR our old imperial twin and earth's went something like '4029' and '7036' etc. :lol:
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Post by some bloke » 28 Dec 2015, 17:16

Ah yes of course it was 3029 lol.

Anyway the reason I'm a cabby and not a sparky is I can't do sums, cant remember formulas and would never be able to calculate current or volt drops etc. I managed OK on the bottom of dads step ladder putting pins into cable clips in my short grey flannel trousers. :angel:

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Post by 2011 fawcett » 31 Dec 2015, 21:56

some bloke wrote:Ah yes of course it was 3029 lol.

Anyway the reason I'm a cabby and not a sparky is I can't do sums, cant remember formulas and would never be able to calculate current or volt drops etc. I managed OK on the bottom of dads step ladder putting pins into cable clips in my short grey flannel trousers. :angel:
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Post by some bloke » 01 Jan 2016, 06:37

Aw bless. :thumbup:

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