Black sun ruby for evo torch

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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by cliveward » 11 Dec 2017, 21:29

It does make me chuckle a bit by being told by the internet what and what isn't in our products and how someone else makes something the 'same' :lol:

The Black Sun Ruby and AS-X are completely different.

I've done the side by tests and the Ruby has considerably more power and gets out further.

Nothing 'wrong' with the AS-X at all and it's nice to see another company coming up with their own ideas for a change. It just does something different to the Black Sun Ruby, as does the Black Sun and Black Sun 2. :thumbup:


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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by whitehackle » 11 Dec 2017, 21:39

cliveward wrote:It does make me chuckle a bit by being told by the internet what and what isn't in our products and how someone else makes something the 'same' :lol:

The Black Sun Ruby and AS-X are completely different.

I've done the side by tests and the Ruby has considerably more power and gets out further.

Nothing 'wrong' with the AS-X. It just does something different to the Black Sun Ruby, as does the Black Sun and Black Sun 2. :thumbup:


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When is it going to be available for the evo torch clive?

Thanks

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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by cliveward » 11 Dec 2017, 21:44

whitehackle wrote:
When is it going to be available for the evo torch clive?

Thanks
I had to design a new copper PCB for this particular type of pill to make the Black Sun system work properly in it. These are due in the next few days so we should have some put together next week. :thumbup:


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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by cliveward » 12 Dec 2017, 11:49

Hi All,

Just done a bit of more scientific testing as a few people have asked for a comparison and there seems to be some confusion on other parts of 'internetland'.

I tested a 38mm AS-X and a BR20 as a comparison this morning.

To help people understand. The fully focussed beam of the Black Sun Ruby is about 2/3 the size of a standard Black Sun or Black Sun 2. The fully focussed beam of the AS-X is about 1/4 of the size again of the Black Sun Ruby.

On our meter I put both IR's on full power and left them for 5 minutes then measured the power density. This isn't the total output, but how much power the beam can deliver over a fixed area.

AS-X was 11.95 W/m2
Black Sun Ruby was 12.75 W/m2

So power density is very similar. :thumbup:

Then you need to consider beam profile. The beam of the AS-X is about 1/4 of the size of the Black Sun Ruby so if both illuminators were set for a correct beam to fill the field of view of your NV, then the Black Sun Ruby would be delivering, again about 4x the total power into that viewing area and essentially be able to see twice as far, which mirrors the results we see in the field.

I hope that helps people understand the difference now. :thumbup:


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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by David.evans » 13 Dec 2017, 19:14

Well I've got the evo 75 , and I ve been on clives web site and it looks like , there not made in the ruby form , or I would have bought one
Unless ive missed it
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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by whitehackle » 14 Dec 2017, 10:14

He says on this topic. They should be available next week

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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by lightmesser » 14 Dec 2017, 11:26

cliveward wrote: To help people understand. The fully focussed beam of the Black Sun Ruby is about 2/3 the size of a standard Black Sun or Black Sun 2. The fully focussed beam of the AS-X is about 1/4 of the size again of the Black Sun Ruby.

The beam of the AS-X is about 1/4 of the size of the Black Sun Ruby
That means that you guys use different IR emitters or same emitters but with different modding method.

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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by cliveward » 14 Dec 2017, 11:31

whitehackle wrote:He says on this topic. They should be available next week
Had a delivery of the PCBs this morning. :thumbup:

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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by lightmesser » 14 Dec 2017, 11:34

Beautiful... Your own DTP MCPCB boards.

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Re: Black sun ruby for evo torch

Post by cliveward » 14 Dec 2017, 12:01

lightmesser wrote:Beautiful... Your own DTP MCPCB boards.
They just weren't available in 16mm so we had to design our own.

Cheap stuff from China is using a paper thin aluminium Cree PCB and better stuff is using a thicker copper Cree PCB. Might be 'good enough' for some, but not us.

Our bespoke design is a little thicker again and using correct design for the LED. 8-)

Might as well do it properly. :thumbup:


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