Black Sun visibility

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Black Sun visibility

Postby sika98k » 11 Dec 2017, 11:26

Hi folks,

I recently purchased a Black Sun pill for a T20. I fitted it a couple of days ago and was keen to see the results. I am surprised to see that at High mode and intermediate mode the light (ir) beam is quite visible to the naked eye, to the extent I may as well be using a red pill. The low beam is somewhat less but still visible to the naked eye.

Is this normal?

Previous pills I have used have been far more covert,just what I wanted.

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Re: Black Sun visibility

Postby Mini Magnum » 11 Dec 2017, 11:52

Previous pills you have used, use a different spectral range, the ruby is lower down in the spectrum giving it more visibility your digital NV will make better use of this range and allow you to see further and use higher mag ranges, or reduce torch size to get similar performance to larger lensed torch with normal AS pill.

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Re: Black Sun visibility

Postby rjudd » 11 Dec 2017, 12:22

Are you using black sun or black sun ruby??

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Re: Black Sun visibility

Postby some bloke » 11 Dec 2017, 12:46

If its not the Black Sun Ruby pill the beam should be very difficult to see by the human eye beyond a yard or so (In very dark conditions you can sometimes see red shining on your sound mod) but the source of the light (IE the torch lens) is quite easily seen - especially by nocturnal quarry with dark adjusted eye's while it's tightly focused at its face.

If it IS the Ruby pill I would expect my naked eyes to be able to see a small amout of red beam in the foreground - but much less than if I were lamping with a visible red lamp.
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Re: Black Sun visibility

Postby cliveward » 11 Dec 2017, 13:24

sika98k wrote:Hi folks,

I recently purchased a Black Sun pill for a T20. I fitted it a couple of days ago and was keen to see the results. I am surprised to see that at High mode and intermediate mode the light (ir) beam is quite visible to the naked eye, to the extent I may as well be using a red pill. The low beam is somewhat less but still visible to the naked eye.

Is this normal?

Previous pills I have used have been far more covert,just what I wanted.


I've just had a quick look and I'm pretty sure this is what you ordered:

http://www.nightvisionstore.co.uk/red-s ... 2x24606593

This is the visible Red Sun, not the IR Black Sun or Black Sun Ruby.

Amazing for lamping. Rubbish for NV work. :o

Get it back to us with a note of what you actually need and we'll swap it over for you. :thumbup:


Cheers





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sika98k
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Re: Black Sun visibility

Postby sika98k » 11 Dec 2017, 13:39

Thanks Clive,I will do that. As you can gather I wasn't aware of the differences.
NV is a bit of a black art here still :mrgreen:

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Re: Black Sun visibility

Postby sunndog » 11 Dec 2017, 21:02

"This i.r pill is as bright as a red led!"

"Erm, yeah that is a red led mate"


Sorry fella that did mate me chuckle. Clive will sort you out though :thumbup:


Could you do me a favour and add your location to your profile please mate......nearest town or city will be grand


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Re: Black Sun visibility

Postby rjudd » 12 Dec 2017, 08:21

:wtf: :wtf: :lolno:

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Re: Black Sun visibility

Postby sika98k » 24 Jan 2018, 01:15

Thank you Clive. That is a big improvement.


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