800 setup & IR problems

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby sunndog » 17 Jul 2017, 11:57

Percyallen wrote:Taking delivery of wdv 800l soon, I have a t20 black sun I got from Clive, will that be adequate out to two hundred yards?


Bout 150yrds is the practical limit on a good night mate
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when asking for advice, please include what n.v device and/or illumination you already have (if any) and what rifles you intend to use them on...cheers

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby Muskett » 17 Jul 2017, 13:52

T20 Blacksun does all your rats and rabbits head shot to 100m or so with loads of backstop. Struggling to 200m.
The B501 gets over 200m plus backstop.
The B672 basically blitz out as far as the conditions allow.

The bigger you go the more range but the bigger the NV contraption. Depends what you target quarry is. Use the smallest you can get away with. I use on/off mounts for the torches so can switch between units.
If its heavy mist then power alone isn't any help; nothing much is.

My rabbit gun has a B501 and for fox a Clive converted NM800 because I had one already.

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby Percyallen » 17 Jul 2017, 14:41

I bought a sightron 4-20x50 duplex in anticipation of the 800l arrival, should I be looking at the 2.5-17x56, going on .17hmr.

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby Percyallen » 17 Jul 2017, 15:52

Regarding my previous post, my thoughts of upgrading to the better scope are not for more power but for a sharper clearer image through the 800l.

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby warbucks » 17 Jul 2017, 19:25

Percyallen wrote:I bought a sightron 4-20x50 duplex in anticipation of the 800l arrival, should I be looking at the 2.5-17x56, going on .17hmr.
Coling and myself spent a night testing the "Wardy 700" and a pvs 14 gen 3 pinnicle with Sightron 2.5-17x56, mtc mamba-lite 4-16x44, mtc viper 4-16x50 and Hawke sidewinder 4-16xs50, the results were the Sightron worked better with the pvs 14, but THERE WAS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL THE SCOPES WITH THE "WARDY"

With a hmr your not going to be doing foxing ranges, but in any case a Hawke sidewinder 4-16x50 is as good as owt.

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby Muskett » 17 Jul 2017, 19:56

I find the larger objective of my Sidewinder 50mm obj grabs more ir than the smaller objective of my Mamba. For most mid short to mid range it makes no real difference, differences are marginal.

As said my superior day scope Bushnell 6500 gave a markedly less crisp picture; enough to switch to the Sidewinder.

In truth we need people to regularly add to the list of whats giving good results. Most side parallax compatible scopes will work well enough; its just some do really well; well a bit better... None quite do the NV vibrant crispness of a DP, but then thats Add Ons for you.

Tubed do seem to do well with higher quality glass, but then ir isn't needed much and a little goes a long way. Too much help might damage the tube.

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby Phil_Oxon » 19 Jul 2017, 11:14

Working nights I only get one night ever two weeks when I can get out shooting. The other night was my second attempt to get the 800 set up and again unusable. No problem during daylight or using it as a monocular at night, but for its intended use forget it. It is more than likely something I am doing wrong but I don't have the luxury of time so hopefully I can return it. I do need something that is user friendly so I will then bite the bullet and buy a Drone Pro.

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby Phil_Oxon » 26 Jul 2017, 20:54

I have been speaking to Clive over the last couple of days (what a lovely bloke he is) and he thinks he has the solution. Fingers crossed for Monday or Tuesday depending on the weather.

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby Phil_Oxon » 11 Aug 2017, 06:34

Sadly I could not get the set up to work and had to return everything. It is probably me but I just need something that is going to work straight away without any fuss. Clive has been superb all the way and I am disappointed as it would have been a perfect setup for all my weapons. Not sure which way I am going to go now.

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Re: 800 setup & IR problems

Postby blueeyes » 11 Aug 2017, 07:39

Not wanting to high jack this thread but this is very similar to what I was getting viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17407 just wondering if its the coating on the lens , I have a AGS Swat I want to try but not sure if it will hold zero on my .223


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